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Should English be the only official language of the EU?

od dbob, 15 kwietnia 2015

Wpisy: 29

Język: English

bartlett22183 (Pokaż profil) 16 kwietnia 2015, 18:21:52

As a citizen of the USA I have deliberately refrained from voting in this poll, as I think that Europeans should decide European matters. However, do I advocate English as a worldwide international auxiliary language? No, I do not. I am an educated native speaker of English (General American dialect), and although I am not a teacher of 'English as a Second Language', I have worked with enough persons struggling to learn English that I am aware of how difficult a language it really is; to say nothing of the abominable spelling (and I am a good speller).

Yes, English is the most widespread international auxiliary language (just not a constructed one) to date in world history, but even as a loving native speaker I do not think it is a good choice. It is a flexible, powerful one, but it is truly difficult. Much of its hegemony comes from the British Empire and the rise of US dominance. That does not make it suitable as such. I myself strongly support the ideal of a more neutral, more consistent and therefore, presumably easier, less culturally bound constructed IAL, provided it is adequate to all the needs of modern life. Esperanto is, in my opinion, with Interlingua a possibility.

ustra (Pokaż profil) 16 kwietnia 2015, 18:56:25

Kirilo81:According to Eurostat, besides the 13% English native speakers in the EU only 8% of the population speak English at a high level. Making English the only official language of the EU would mean to exclude 79% of its inhabitants from social and political participation...
On the other hand when you consider that those who rule the people amount to even less than 1%, wouldn't a language like Volapük for them more accurately reflect the actual ratio?

Let them speak in their very own funny language about their funny money, oppression and wars while we live our lifes in peace and freedom and, of course, communicate in Esperanto!

Christa627 (Pokaż profil) 16 kwietnia 2015, 21:03:01

Tempodivalse:
robbkvasnak:I don't mean to offend anyone, but true native fluency with highly fluent accuracy is extremely rare.
Seconded! I think even many native speakers of English would fall short of this standard.

I have sometimes even discovered that it is easier for me to express the desired nuance of meaning in Esperanto than in English (or Russian). Surely this would normally be impossible for a non-native speaker of any other language ...
I've experienced the same thing! And sometimes I'm frustrated with not being able to say exactly what I mean to say, in English, when it is perfectly clear in my mind, in Esperanto. But I can't just say it in Esperanto because the person I'm talking to doesn't understand it malgajo.gif.

se (Pokaż profil) 17 kwietnia 2015, 03:02:43

Just a quick share of information. Few said that English language users are world wide but BBC reported in 2010 that 75% of the people in the world do not speak English. Indonesia has stopped teaching English, those parents who are rich and like to send children overseas can take tuition outside school hours.

Indonesia is trying to establish the strength of Indonesian language in ASEAN as the Asean Community will be commenced this coming December. 600 million people in ASEAN, just imagine the music, books, etc will go to Indonesia. In fact, Indonesia will begin the new ruling ,all foreign workers, expats as well, must learn Bahasa Indonesia, at least 300 hours. Learning Bahasa Indonesia is easier than English, needs 900 hours but English needs 3200 hours. Imagine the full set of irregular verbs, more than a thousand in total is already 10,000 words in Esperanto.

Go to MESGo page and read the information about the development of English in used. The links in 0 parts.

Though China will use the new policy in English language testing but it is unlike Indonesia, drop English language at all. China will not be able to drop English like Indonesia as the corruption is high. Bad language policy planners are in the government.

More people in the world are aware of the mother tongue right in the internet age and are fighting for it. Will English be their mother tongues in ASEAN ? Yes, in Singapore and the Philippines. But the Filipinos are fighting to use Tagalog,only Singapore, which is a tiny island has to depend on USA<

The hours of learning English in Wiki is erased.

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Alkanadi (Pokaż profil) 19 kwietnia 2015, 08:25:49

I think that all European languages should be represented in an organization that promotes European unity.

ustra (Pokaż profil) 19 kwietnia 2015, 09:10:04

Alkanadi:I think that all European languages should be represented in an organization that promotes European unity.
Then you certainly don't mean the EU or any other political institution as they always divide the people...

KStef (Pokaż profil) 19 kwietnia 2015, 10:04:17

EU was always divided, becouse it is not a country, it is an organization, which 'connecting' countries. Why English should be one official Language in EU? I know that all documents must be translating to other languages (More languages - more documents - more money to spend). But i think all countries have their traditions and their language. "Only English" is distinction. All countries, all languages and all traditions should be equally important.

I am Counter-Strike: Global Offensive player. Becouse most of teenagers speak English - we use English to communication. A lot of them says "he have", "he don't speak English" etc. That makes language more ulgy if you know what i mean.
So as you can see, English should be one of official langueges, but not one and only one.
Sorry for mistakes. I am learning English at B1 level.

se (Pokaż profil) 19 kwietnia 2015, 10:46:39

KStef:(More languages - more documents - more money to spend).
Well said, it is similar to the UN and other related UN org, which have to translate the similar piece of work into 6 so called official languages, more often than not, only two are using, English and French.

This resulted in more paper and trees are being cut down. The environment activists never realise that and the UEA representatives to UN and UNESCO should speak in Esperanto but they failed to do so. The language policy in the UN, representative does not necessary to speak in the 6 official languages. Search India PM in UN web TV to see what language he used last year.

Besides, many NGOs did not respect the UNESCO resolutions 1985. This partly should be shouldered by UEA and TEJO, of course, the national eo association too for not informing, encouraging them to respect the resolutions.

Why UEA only celebrate the 1954 resolutions 60 years last year but the 50 years was ignored ?

Too many problem in the public relations in UEA, TEJO and national eo associations.

dbob (Pokaż profil) 22 maja 2015, 22:02:09

When I created this post (2015-04-15) about Debating Europe the word “esperanto” appeared over 245 times among 690 plus comments. Today, approx. a month later, it appears over 580 times among 1100 plus comments. So, the question whether English should be the only official language of the EU is still very much alive over there, as well as the comments about Esperanto, including amusing ones or even pathetic ones: “Esperanto is for Daleks”.

I’ve also seen a couple of comments by some users of the lernu-forum, like Robb Kvasnak and Orthohawk.

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