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robinast (显示个人资料) 2009年7月17日下午3:41:30
If I don't mistake, "scii" means to know something and "koni" means to know someone. But which of the verbs should be used, if I want to say that though I know a person, I do not know her or him personally? For example, I know who is Barack Obama - but we are not acquainted with each other and he definitely does not know me. In Estonian in this case I would say "ma tean Barack Obamat" ("ma tean" = "mi scias" = I know). Aivar is my best friend and, naturally, we know each other well. Now I would say in Estonian "ma tunnen Aivarit" (="mi konas Aivar" = I know Aivar).
Another situation in Estonian (word for word translations):
Q: Kas Sa tunned teda? (Do you know him?/Cxu vi konas lin?)
A: Ei, ma vaid tean teda. (No, I only know him.
/Ne, mi nur scias lin.) Here I say that though I know who he is, I do not know him personally.
How to express this difference in Esperanto?
Amike,
Harri.
Another situation in Estonian (word for word translations):
Q: Kas Sa tunned teda? (Do you know him?/Cxu vi konas lin?)
A: Ei, ma vaid tean teda. (No, I only know him.
/Ne, mi nur scias lin.) Here I say that though I know who he is, I do not know him personally.How to express this difference in Esperanto?
Amike,
Harri.
tommjames (显示个人资料) 2009年7月17日下午4:12:45
Koni can mean knowing someone either personally or impersonally, although the usual assumption will be that it's a personal relation unless the context clearly indicates otherwise. If I wanted to say I know Barack Obama, but stress that it's not a personal relation, I would say Mi konas Obaman, sed ne persone.
As far as I know, scii is never the right verb to show that kind of relation, whether it's personal or not.
As far as I know, scii is never the right verb to show that kind of relation, whether it's personal or not.
