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To help your (pl.) community?

от jkph00, 13 августа 2014 г.

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jkph00 (Показать профиль) 13 августа 2014 г., 20:10:37

I am trying to express the idea of a plural "vi" in the phrase "to help your community." In Southern English I would write "y'all's community," or if I meant "y'all's community" on a big scale, I could write "all y'all's community." (Any Southerner immediately knows the difference) okulumo.gif .

Now, if I write "helpi al via komunumo," the plural nature of "vi" seems to me to get lost. I don't think saying "viaj komunumo" is possible. How do I express it?

Warmest thanks in advance for your help.

tommjames (Показать профиль) 13 августа 2014 г., 20:33:12

One possibility would be "helpi la komunumon de vi ĉiuj".

jkph00 (Показать профиль) 13 августа 2014 г., 20:54:21

tommjames:One possibility would be "helpi la komunumon de vi ĉiuj".
Just so. Thank you!

orthohawk (Показать профиль) 13 августа 2014 г., 23:27:01

jkph00:I am trying to express the idea of a plural "vi" in the phrase "to help your community." In Southern English I would write "y'all's community," or if I meant "y'all's community" on a big scale, I could write "all y'all's community." (Any Southerner immediately knows the difference) okulumo.gif .

Now, if I write "helpi al via komunumo," the plural nature of "vi" seems to me to get lost. I don't think saying "viaj komunumo" is possible. How do I express it?

Warmest thanks in advance for your help.

erinja (Показать профиль) 14 августа 2014 г., 2:02:58

Does it have to be so exclusive, as to say "via komunumo" - perhaps the solution would be to make it more inclusive and say "nia komunumo"?

As a northerner, though, I'm a non-user of y'all. I would assume that "via komunumo" is referring to everyone's community, not just to a single person's community. A community is not something that I ever think of as belonging to a single person.

morfran (Показать профиль) 14 августа 2014 г., 4:55:45

I think you’re OK with via komunumo, actually. Insofar as vi means “belonging to or associated with the person or people that the speaker is addressing”, it’s probably safe to say that anyone in the group you’re addressing will know that “your community” = “y’all’s community”, just as they would in standard American English.

jkph00 (Показать профиль) 16 августа 2014 г., 0:43:33

erinja:Does it have to be so exclusive, as to say "via komunumo" - perhaps the solution would be to make it more inclusive and say "nia komunumo"?

As a northerner, though, I'm a non-user of y'all. I would assume that "via komunumo" is referring to everyone's community, not just to a single person's community. A community is not something that I ever think of as belonging to a single person.
Erinja, I understand your thoughts, but in this case the difference is considerable. His community is in Tanzania. I live in West Virginia, USA. Hu. okulumo.gif

Bemused (Показать профиль) 19 августа 2014 г., 0:36:36

orthohawk:
jkph00:I am trying to express the idea of a plural "vi" in the phrase "to help your community." In Southern English I would write "y'all's community," or if I meant "y'all's community" on a big scale, I could write "all y'all's community." (Any Southerner immediately knows the difference) okulumo.gif .

Now, if I write "helpi al via komunumo," the plural nature of "vi" seems to me to get lost. I don't think saying "viaj komunumo" is possible. How do I express it?

Warmest thanks in advance for your help.
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