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Gregg Shorthand Writers Who Use Esperanto--Are You Out There?

від Polaris, 26 квітня 2010 р.

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Polaris (Переглянути профіль) 26 квітня 2010 р. 03:48:21

An Esperanto version of Gregg shorthand was developed in 1918. Since both shorthand and Esperanto are hobbies of mine, I was delighted to be able to combine the two and to find a system for writing Esperanto in shorthand. If anybody is interested, there is a wonderful shorthand site gregg.angelfishy.net where the entire Esperanto Gregg shorthand manual has been put up in PDF format for everyone to enjoy. Apparently, the owner of the site is also an Esperantist!

Is anybody else on the forum a Gregg user? Have you learned to write Esperanto with Gregg yet? I'd love to correspond with someone using the system if someone wants to have some fun!

ceigered (Переглянути профіль) 27 квітня 2010 р. 10:14:27

Looks interesting - I'm currently building up my knowledge of alternative communication methods (for example, anything from sign language to alternative writing systems), and this looks interesting. The length of the consonants and how that relates to voicing, and the angle they are at also interests me. The one area I see confusing is the Ĉ/Ĝ vs. T/D. But I guess that pair isn't too troublesome, as ato ~ acxo ~ agxo ~ ado isn't too hard to confuse in context (I'm also guessing that writing in shorthand means you don't bother with making perfectly-built words and probably just stick with bare roots and adjectives where possible).

Very interesting find!

jchthys (Переглянути профіль) 27 квітня 2010 р. 14:00:34

I once tried Gregg, but I kind of stopped. I have seen the Esperanto version and thought I might pick it up again, but I'm too busy now.

Donniedillon (Переглянути профіль) 27 квітня 2010 р. 18:51:58

It's not exactly shorthand, but I have enjoyed playing with the Shavian alphabet. It is well suited to Esperanto. All the sounds of Esperanto can be reproduced accurately using it.

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/shavian.htm
http://www.shavian.org/

RiotNrrd (Переглянути профіль) 28 квітня 2010 р. 00:42:03

I'm a Teeline guy, myself. Tried to teach myself Gregg many years ago and found it too difficult (whereas Teeline was a piece o' cake).

I imagine Teeline would be easy enough to adapt to Esperanto, although I haven't bothered to do so.

ceigered (Переглянути профіль) 28 квітня 2010 р. 12:21:59

Nice little tute there RiotNrrd. I was perplexed though trying to figure out what the ligature for "FCD" stood for okulumo.gif

Shavian looks cool, but I imagine it'd work better with Esperanto where there is a more unified approach to phonetics. Unless we go and split English up into sub-languages or do what Wikipedia has done here and here.

RiotNrrd (Переглянути профіль) 30 квітня 2010 р. 16:42:06

ceigered:I was perplexed though trying to figure out what the ligature for "FCD" stood for
I'm sure it must stand for "facade". I can't imagine ANY other word it might stand for. lango.gif

qwertz (Переглянути профіль) 1 травня 2010 р. 11:07:20

Donniedillon:It's not exactly shorthand, but I have enjoyed playing with the Shavian alphabet. It is well suited to Esperanto. All the sounds of Esperanto can be reproduced accurately using it.

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/shavian.htm
http://www.shavian.org/
Hhm, I like this Shavian. It's a funny idea to grant a picturesque (asian language?) style to mostly latin written Esperanto.

ceigered (Переглянути профіль) 1 травня 2010 р. 11:51:38

Anyone found a place where Korean script (Hangul) has been adapted to Esperanto? That'd be cool as well.

qwertz (Переглянути профіль) 1 травня 2010 р. 12:21:37

ceigered:Anyone found a place where Korean script (Hangul) has been adapted to Esperanto? That'd be cool as well.
Yes, sure! That would be cool. So we would have a kind of Ying/Yang hemisphere. If you would project it on the world map. Hhm, okay doesn't work for north-east part (i.e. russian cyrillic). Anyway/Egal/Wie auch immer. okulumo.gif

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