Ujumbe: 19
Lugha: English
JoeyJoJo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 29 Septemba 2015 7:49:31 alasiri
For context, one character is accusing another character of poisoning someone.
jefusan (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 29 Septemba 2015 8:52:23 alasiri
JoeyJoJo:"I'm going to have that medicine analyzed!"That's a good question: Is there an Esperanto equivalent to the English causative (to have something done)?
Would you use the word "farigo" somehow? "Mi farigos tiun medikamenton analizita"(???)
You could avoid that construction by saying something like "Mi ordonos al iu analizi tiun medikamenton!" ("I'm going to tell someone to analyze that medicine!" ) But it loses something in translation.
Mustelvulpo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 29 Septemba 2015 8:58:44 alasiri
jefusan (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 29 Septemba 2015 9:04:31 alasiri
noelekim (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 30 Septemba 2015 3:53:48 asubuhi
jefusan:Mi igos iun analizi tiun medikamenton.A few more alternatives ...
:: mi sendos tiun medikamenton al analizejo
:: mi petos ke tiu medikamento estu analizita
:: mi aranĝos submetigi tiun medikamenton al analizo
nornen (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 30 Septemba 2015 4:41:37 asubuhi
Mi analizigos tiun medikamenton.
From a syntactic point of view, it is unclear whether medikamenton is the agent or patient of analizi (which is always the case in Esperanto with causatives of transitive verbs), but from a semantic point of view it should be obvious.
ustra (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 30 Septemba 2015 7:57:21 asubuhi
tommjames (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 30 Septemba 2015 8:35:01 asubuhi
nornen:Wouldn't a simple causative with -ig- suffice?Yes this form is fine and IMO is the best way of phrasing it.
Mi analizigos tiun medikamenton.
sudanglo (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 30 Septemba 2015 11:17:53 asubuhi
This seems to me to work like 'mi prezentos la aferon por diskutado'.
From the Tekstaro:
ŝi devas submeti sian himenon al la ekzameno de ..
See also in PIV submeti (2) 'prezenti al ies priagado'
Edit - you could also say:
Mi intencas (far)igi tiun medikamenton analizita
Mi aranĝos ke ĝi estu analizita/ke ĝi submetiĝu al analizo
Mi intencas sendi ĝin por analizo
As is common with translation, you can have more than one option.
Miland (Wasifu wa mtumiaji) 30 Septemba 2015 12:33:17 alasiri
Mi intencas raporti ka kuraciston/farmaciiston/flegistinon/ktp-iston al la polico!
It depends on whether someone is speaking rhetorically, or really intends to use an analytical chemist.